Long Mandan, Thunder Butte 1922

Long Mandan 1922 survey Thunder Butte District Cheyenne River Reservation

Long Mandan 1922 survey Thunder Butte District Cheyenne River Reservation

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11 Comments

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  3. December 1, 2009 at 4:57 am

    Greetings, Eva
    Thank you for your post. Your sharing of information and documents means alot to us. All those papers are connected to real people. Scarleg was my husband’s grandfather.

    Later, and blessings to you and your loved ones.

    • December 4, 2009 at 7:21 pm

      Hello Monika. Glad to be of some help. If you know of other people who can offer specific names for me to select for posting online, please cite them. Do keep in mind that the contents of these documents reflects certain people at a certain point in time.
      For now.
      Eva

  4. November 11, 2009 at 7:58 am

    Hi Eva,

    Thanks for your response. If I may say so, for us the Thunder Butte Records and also Cherry Creek would be most helpful. Agency? Does this mean the old Agency records? Yes, definitely.
    The names on our priority list are Scarleg and Bagola. But anything helps, and might contain hints leading to more family records.
    I am fully aware of how time consuming, and sometimes frustrating, historical and genealogical research can be. It sure can take you for a ride, in particular if the story behind the documents concerns family – direct descendants of the persons mentioned in the records.
    If you would like to find out more about the current concerns of Dakota/Lakota families re-searching their relatives, go to http://oyate1.proboards.com/index.cgi?
    You’ll find alot of history there.

    Thank you again for your interest in untold history, and your effort and time you put into this project.

    toksa ake

    Monika

    • November 28, 2009 at 2:55 am

      Hi Monika. Thank you very much for the link. Please be aware that my work is not primarily genealogical in nature. But such records are one way to find ‘the people’ in general in the BIA correspondence. Often, unless someone attracted negative attention there was little written about them. I consider these 1922 surveys useful because there appears to be a complete set for the Cheyenne River Reservation at NARA-KC. Often there’s not a lot of ‘complete’ items for CR gathered together. If anyone is interested, there is a Sioux Benefits Ledger that offers an unusual amount of information for each person in one place: ration ticket numbers that track from the 1886 revisions, names, allotment numbers, birth/death, marriages, assests. The ledger was apparently in use until approximately 1920.

      for now,
      peace

  5. November 10, 2009 at 6:56 am

    Eva,
    Thank you very much for posting those documents.
    We are living on the Cheyenne River Rez, next to Thunder Butte Community.
    I can tell you from our own experience, how difficult it is to put in, and tend a garden out here. The Lakota people used to have gardens along the rivers for a long time, bevore reservation times. But you need to have the suitable plot of land to be able to have a successful harvest. Not only is the prairie soil far from the river very tough for gardening, you also have to deal with rugged weather conditions. High winds, hot summers with severe Thunderstorms, and often hail up to 1″ and bigger, drought conditions, very cold winters with – 40 degrees F.

    I often ask myself how on earth the people survived in those shaby shacks… by the way, some of them are still standing, and many Lakota still have to reside in similar unbearable conditions – in the 21st century…

    My husband and I have been doing family research for the last 5 years.
    Thanks to the internet, and thoughtful people like you, there is alot of useful information posted out there. But we also learned, how difficult it is for Native Americans to find family records. Most of them are scattered all over the country and hard to get to. Many researchers on the rez do not have the funds to travel to the National Archives, and other Government facilities, to obtain documents.

    We would be really grateful, if you have the time and generosity, to post more of those Cheyenne River Reservation documents.

    Thank you for taking your time.

    Respectfully,

    Monika Zephier

    • November 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm

      Hello Monika. Thank you for taking the time to post about current conditions on the Cheyenne River Reservation. I am aware of how difficult it is for people without funds to do research anywhere. It also is time consumuing. Nor is it easy. The Cheyenne River Indian Agency records are not fully processed. The records I’ve posted so far I found by a happy accident–had no idea what a “social survey” was until curiosity got me into the boxes with these folders. Most of the photos and texts are from the 1922 survey. I have scanned all the texts for the Cherry Creek district–there are mainly negatives for this district and only a few developed photos. I also have scanned all the photos for the other districts. I have NOT scanned all the textual information for all the other districts–yet.
      Which districts would be of the most help? Whitehorse? Cherry Creek? Promise? LaPlant? Agency? Thunder Butte? Eagle Butte?
      Very glad to have you ‘post’ on my blog. I know there have been and continue to be many many ‘views’ of Cheyenne River materials I’ve posted on the blog–but you’re the first person from Cheyenne River to make contact. Thank you.

  6. Uncle Tree said,

    September 19, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Sentenced to working the wood pile?
    A 65 year old cripple? And it was mandatory
    that Mandan put in a garden every year?

    It’s easy to see from all these pictures
    just how hard it is to grow anything
    in that barren place. That’s asking a
    bit too much. Ridiculous!

    Bravo to your good intentions, Eva!
    Thanks for the lesson. It’s a humbling reminder.

    • September 20, 2009 at 3:26 pm

      Hi Uncle Tree. Yep, the Cheyenne River Reservation just isn’t really suitable for ‘farming’ to any great extent. The gardening seems to have been an attempt to help address are real problem–food. If people could-would garden it was one way to supplement their diet. But there was nothing easy about gardening during droughts and insect infestations on land generally unsuitable for such in the first place.
      Thanks for visiting and sharing your thoughts. Much appreciated.


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