War ~ a few musical pieces

War raises a lot of very troubling questions about the human species.

Are we all natural-born killers?

Are we hardwired to engage in war?

Who sets up these lethal games and why?

Why does the cannon fodder allow themselves to be so easily manipulated into serving the interests of others?

Any mothers out there having children so they can grow up and go off to boot camp where they’ll be trained to kill other people?

And now there are drones.  Well, the drones don’t rape and torture anyone. Yet. I’m sure the war-mongers will figure out that computer program in time.  And some amoral folks will make it work just because they can.

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Masters of War   ~ original by Bob Dylan covered by Ed Sheeran.   The lyrics get the point across quite effectively. Though maybe the masters’ lethal games need to be monkey-wrenched before they get to destroy the lives of others. Just a random thought.

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Women and children during war are as expendable as the soldiers. No life is sacred.

Thousands of women and children were raped and killed in Nanking in 1937-38. The Flowers of War is based upon these events. This is just one example of the insanity, brutality and dehumanization of humans by other humans.

The International Military Tribunal for the Far East estimated that 20,000 women were raped, including infants and the elderly.[42] A large portion of these rapes were systematized in a process where soldiers would search door-to-door for young girls, with many women taken captive and gang raped.[43]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

 The Flowers of War 

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The line between sanity and insanity to which all are pushed during war. Once your mind is gone what more can be lost?

Journey to the Line ~ Music from the film The Thin Red Line by Hans Zimmer

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Multiple movie views of warfare involving horses.  Animals conscripted for war. If we humans were more like animals, would we still make war?

The Horse Charge ~Music: Two Steps from Hell – Heart of Courage

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Some of these scenes are ‘famous’ from a time when photojournalists were not embedded with soldiers and put their lives on the line to photograph the reality of war.

Run Through the Jungle ~ Creedence Clearwater Revival

Lana Rains

“Various images and photos depicting the Vietnam war. CAUTION….. Very graphic videos, please be aware that these videos show graphic scenes of napalm attacks.”

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This selection of music and a few notions does even begin to touch the tip of the human history of making war.  When are we going to evolve beyond such behavior? Can we? If it’s all a matter of choice–then what is wrong with us for continuing to decide to make war on each other?

I know I’ve probably not accomplished a thing with this post–but–at least I’ve vented a tad.

namaste

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Bear’s War     http://bearspawprint.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/war/

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17 Comments

  1. March 13, 2014 at 10:05 am

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  2. March 13, 2014 at 11:12 am

    The music clip from Flowers of War is particularly good. I have seen that movie, and did not even think of it. I was too busy avoiding Vietnam. I omitted reference to Vietnam on purpose. When I started to write a tiny sentence, it turned into an essay and I still wasn’t done a few hours later. Too painful. Tossed it.

    Persephone needs a coat this morning.

    Namaste

    • March 13, 2014 at 4:07 pm

      Flowers of War has some beautiful music throughout it, Bear.
      I wish you had not tossed your thoughts on Vietnam. Especially if you spent hours writing.

      Oddly enough Persphone just needs a sweater at my edge of the pond.

      namaste

      • March 13, 2014 at 5:00 pm

        Nah, t’was too train of thought too personal. Just I could not write about some experiences while certain protagonists were still living, I cannot write about this …yet. I may not live long enough to have the write:-) circumstances. Perhaps at some point I can disguise some of it. Dunno.

        Those few sentences each required hours of refection and angst. But not as much as the rejected bits. That is what I meant my “challenged”. WHAP Thank you. I needed that. Sigh. I shall read your comments this evening, re: email, I must be away from the computer for a little while. Namaste Mi Amiga Eva

  3. March 13, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    A couple of years ago, a friend and I were talking about war. I mentioned Alice’s Restaurant, and she said she remembered the TV Series. My heart sank for a second as I realized how old that meant I am. As I am occasionally an educator, I took this as a learning opportunity and loaned her the following tunes, with the following for liner notes. Youtbue links follow.

    Alice’s Restaurant Massacree:
    Arlo Guthrie, son of Woody and frequent travelling companion of Pete Seeger, wrote this true story as it evolved over the course of his young life. A wanderer, like his father, he wasn’t the type to sit still, even in “alternative” schools, such as the one where Alice taught. Alice left to open the restaurant, Arlo left to see the world, stopping at Alice’s for that infamous Thanksgiving dinner. If your son’s flat feet aren’t flat enough to keep him out of the army, perhaps you can teach him to be a litterbug . . .

    Jimmy Newman:
    Tom Paxton’s the greatest “unknown” songwriter of my lifetime. He’s made millions for others, and he’s made a few here and there. I saw him in Saginaw with about a dozen other people. Sandy was amazed, and asked why she hadn’t heard about him. Anyway, Jimmy Newman and his friend are wounded soldiers waiting for the big white bird – the evacuation plane – that will take them home. The friend is singing to Jimmy. I keep a Kleenex close by for this one.

    Bummer and Sniper:
    Harry Chapin’s one of the people I really miss. He was instrumental in hunger issues back when you were a child. You may well have grown up with his brother Tom on Saturday morning TV.
    Bummer is a fictional story, but probably true enough for altogether too many Vietnam veterans. It’s reminiscent of the great, noble, altruistic American hero of our most recent war, who was famous for rescuing a wounded Iraqi child, and who wound up surrounded by a SWAT team when he made it as far back home as he could manage.

    Sniper is the story of Charles Whitman, a good marine and a good shot, who climbed the tower at the University of Texas with several guns and suitcases of ammunition.


    And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda

    Written by an Australian – like you couldn’t guess that- about the wounded souls of the obscenity we call the First World War. If you’ve seen the young Mel Gibson in “Gallipoli”, you’ve got an idea of what their life was like. Joan Baez, that great interpreter of pain, does a wonderful job on this.

    Waist Deep in the Big Muddy:
    Pete Seeger wrote this, inspired by a true incident where some trainees drowned when ordered to ford a stream far too deep for fording. To his credit, when LBJ heard it, he realized that it was about him and Vietnam. Now if we can only get George to listen to it.

    My name is Liza Kalvelage:
    Liza was born in Germany, and was but a girl when Hitler came to power. She, with some immigration difficulties, wound up marrying a GI from the occupation forces, and came to America only to be suspected of being a war criminal, though she was but a girl then. When Vietnam came, she did not want to be accused of doing nothing again. This one reminds me of your inheritance of faith with action – an inheritance you’ve plainly invested well.

    Agent Orange:
    Kate Wolf’s another one that cancer took from us far too soon. Her voice, and what she did with it, make her one of the most wonderful people I’ve ever encountered.

    Whiskey Lullaby:
    Brad Paisley and Allison Krauss do a beautiful turn on this song of a soldier’s return to an unfaithful wife. It’s not the infidelity that makes it beautiful, it’s the final forgiveness and the happiness that is promised to all of us. The video, directed by and starring a former child actor, is a marvelous piece and is worth looking up on YouTube.

    Universal Soldier:
    Buffy sees the world a little more directly than I can. This is the best of the “What if they gave a war and nobody came” genre.

    Travellin’ Soldier:
    No dead soldier should ever be anonymous. His passing should never be inconsequential. The Dixie Chicks help to lessen that possibility.

    Sam Stone:
    This is a favorite of your successor. John Prine sings of the soldier who comes back mostly dead, and finally finishes the job begun in the war.

    Your Flag Decal Won’t Get You Into Heaven Anymore:
    Before there were yellow ribbons all over cars, there were flag decals to prove your patriotism – so that you didn’t have to bother with the tough parts, like thinking. John Prine, who I love even if he’s from Chicago, does a wonderful send up of that attitude.

    • March 13, 2014 at 4:18 pm

      Hello Jeff Olsenholler, It looks, and sounds, like you need a blog for your thoughts. Thanks for all you’ve taken the time to share.

  4. Yousei Hime said,

    March 13, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    Popped into my head as soon as I read your subject. One of my favorites from many years ago:

    • March 13, 2014 at 5:14 pm

      Lot’s of Billy’s in my family. Thanks for putting this here. Namaste Bear

    • March 16, 2014 at 9:09 am

      Poetic Rabbit, merci for sharing beautiful tragedy. I’ve not heard this ever before. What else is stashed in the burrows of your mind?

      @Bear, “lots” of “Blliys” is way too many.

      • Yousei Hime said,

        March 18, 2014 at 12:42 pm

        It’s from the musical 1776. I’d never heard of it either until I watched the musical (film, I think). 1776 is a bit silly but enjoyable. This song, however, has stayed with me ever since. Never know what will crawl out of the tunnels in the warren of my mind. O_O

      • March 18, 2014 at 8:21 pm

        Not knowing is a great deal of the enjoyment, Poetic Rabbit. Btw, do you tweet haiku on twitter?

  5. slpmartin said,

    March 13, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Excellent series of songs…thought provoking.

    • March 16, 2014 at 9:14 am

      Provoking thoughts–look whose talking via the brown paper bag prophet et al, Charles. Merci.

  6. penpusherpen said,

    March 13, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Great selection Eva, “War, Huh what is it good for, absolutely nuthin”.. . I wonder if we ever will rise above those instincts which had us as Apemen ( women in our case) picking up that first club and beating off the opposition? That’s if you believe evolution, for if we’re evolving still, why are we STILL fighting? ..Violence begets violence, and surely we have brains enough to work out that no-one wins really?
    We all need to vent, so I thought I’d drop by for a cup or two of that rose petal tea, and a few raspberry biscuits would go down a treat. 🙂 xx

    • March 16, 2014 at 9:12 am

      Pen, tea and biscuits at the ready. )

      Maybe we’re not evolving but reaching for the ends of our destruction via violence?
      Or are we hardwired this way for some sort of population control of the predator class?

      • penpusherpen said,

        March 16, 2014 at 10:32 am

        Could be either Eva, (says Pen, sipping the tea whilst dunking a biccie) … it’s a sad fact that we’re overpopulating this world without any care for the damage we’re doing… I have theory we’re in a Zoo, left here to muddle along ‘cos the attendants died out long ago, (or lost interest) 😉 xx

      • March 18, 2014 at 8:23 pm

        Considering the notion of the attendants having lost interest and left the lab animals aka us to our own vices. Chaos in the mazes.


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